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[01:26]<@BC_Programming> http://i.imgur.com/dNnIX4N.jpg
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[04:05]<@Mulreay> lol
[04:06]<@Mulreay> at BC_Programming pic
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[06:58]<@jacky> !lastspoke BC_Programming
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[07:03]<@Mulreay> !lastspoke Mulreay
[07:04]<@Mulreay> Touche
[07:26]<Zuwer> Well, learnt from that mistake. I very rarely drink energy drinks and as it turns out, having one late in the afternoon wasn't a smart idea. Especially considering I've been lazy all day thanks to the weather. D:
[07:49]<@Mulreay> I used to drink 3 red bulls a day when I worked at a place.. made me feel sick later in the day.. not a good way to add alert
[08:01]<PCdoc> here some high school kids think red bull is like some alcohol and they feel very proud of drinking red bull.
[08:01]<PCdoc> to show off between friends
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[08:49]<+Tux2> Hey guys
[09:51]<+camerongray> Hey Tux2
[09:57]<+Tux2> Hey camerongray
[09:57]<+Tux2> First mad customer...
[09:57]<+Tux2> Bought a dedicated, one of their plugins was messing up...
[09:57]<+camerongray> Ahh, what happened?
[09:57]<+Tux2> I've been in and out trying to keep up and help them as much as I can, not enough for them
[09:57]<+Tux2> They sent a cancelation notice and asked for a refund
[09:58]<+Tux2> I don't get refunds on my dedicated servers if my customer cancels, so she didn't read the TOS
[09:58]<+Tux2> which means she isn't going to be very happy
[09:58]<+camerongray> Ahh! :P
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> sounds like an idiot
[09:58]<+camerongray> Probably don't want them anyway!
[09:58]<+Tux2> lol, right?
[09:59]<+Tux2> But I'm not refunding their money, sorry
[09:59]<+Tux2> There is not enough professionalism for me! You are the only staff member working and my tickets literally take a day to get answered! I need better! Sorry! Also I would like refund since i have not had the server that long!
[09:59]<+Tux2> I'm sorry, it only takes a day? Most other hosting services take 48 hours to respond, and they give NO help for plugin related issues
[10:00]<+Tux2> Of course I didn't say that
[10:00]<@BC_Programming> heh I could show them "professionalism"
[10:00]<+camerongray> lol!
[10:00]<+Tux2> lol, want to make $10 BC_Programming? Just figure out which plugin is causing their server to hang
[10:00]<PCdoc> yeah I think BC_Programming is the right person who will make there face like >> "oops!! well, m sorry :("
[10:02]<+Tux2> This was my response: "Unfortunately, according to the TOS you are not entitled for a refund on dedicated servers, however I am willing to help you figure out what plugin is causing your server to crash. Please note that since it takes around 30 minutes for each crash to occur it may take a few days for me to figure it all out idling on your server."
[10:02]<@BC_Programming> no stacktrace?
[10:02]<+Tux2> Correct, it just hangs for a second every once in a while
[10:03]<+Tux2> Only thing that you can tell it hung is everyone dissconnects and it says the "can't keep up" message
[10:04]<+Tux2> She removed all plugins from the server and it stayed up for 4.5 hours though, which means it's plugin related
[10:05]<+Tux2> I've been trying to get a timings report, but of course she keeps restarting the server, which makes it kind of hard
[10:06]<@BC_Programming> new MC Snapshot is out coolness
[10:10]<+Tux2> lol, paypal dispute coming right up!
[10:11]<+Tux2> and this is why there is a terms of service. :D
[10:12]<+Tux2> "There is not enough Staff for me to continue my service! And i had the server for 4 days! If i don't get a refund I will have to submit a thing to pay pal to get my money back! I have talked to other Hosts and they said the crashes are because of the host! I don't care if i don't get a refund for the days used but for the days unused I want a refund!"
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> rofl
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> EVERY sentence ends with a exclamation mark
[10:13]<+Tux2> My response: "When you signed up for the server you had to agree to the Terms of Service. The terms of service clearly state that dedicated servers are non-refundable after purchase. If you want to file a dispute with paypal be my guest. The server is up and running, you have a plugin misbehaving. I have provided everything you signed up for. Also, I've been trying to get a timings report for the past couple of days, but with you restarting the s
[10:13]<+Tux2> erver as frequently as you have I have been unable to get accurate timings."
[10:16]<+Tux2> BC_Programming: want to deal with her?
[10:16]<@BC_Programming> not really lol
[10:16]<+Tux2> I trust you enough to give you some money each month to help out with tickets and such
[10:17]<Immental1200> Hey... you do Minecraft server hosting?
[10:17]<+Tux2> lol, yes I do.
[10:17]<Immental1200> Same xD
[10:17]<+Tux2> I've been doing it since february
[10:18]<+Tux2> first mad customer of the bunch
[10:18]<Immental1200> I've got some really annoying customers ....
[10:18]<Immental1200> I have one guy who opens a ticket
[10:18]<Immental1200> Waits 5 minutes
[10:18]<Immental1200> Then opens another
[10:18]<Immental1200> Until he has 3/4 identical tickets...
[10:18]<+Tux2> lol, I have a policy on that
[10:18]<Immental1200> We just merge them and limit ticket opening ability...
[10:18]<+Tux2> I let them know if they spam the ticket system their service will be terminated without a refund
[10:19]<Immental1200> We have a 7 day refund policy on their first service, excluding dedicated and extra IPs
[10:20]<Immental1200> We also have a termination upon information not matching up... we've had too many dodgy PayPal accounts
[10:20]<+Tux2> ah, lol
[10:20]<Immental1200> Do you use WHMCS?
[10:20]<@BC_Programming> well I think imma go to the bank and get this sorted
[10:20]<+Tux2> I have a 48 hour refund policy on their first service
[10:20]<+Tux2> Yes, I do use WHMCS
[10:21]<Immental1200> And PayPal for payments?
[10:21]<+Tux2> But not on dedicated servers
[10:21]<+Tux2> Yes, paypal for payments
[10:21]<Immental1200> Ever had the API bug?
[10:21]<+Tux2> API bug?
[10:21]<Immental1200> Payments don't show as paid even when they are, despite all API info and IPN info being verified and linked properly.
[10:22]<+Tux2> Nope, never had that happen
[10:22]<Immental1200> Hm. We have a PayPal business account and it keeps randomly occuring for like half a week then it works again...
[10:22]<Immental1200> PayPal and WHMCS have both looked and said nothing is wrong!
[10:24]<+Tux2> lol, interesting... maybe your hosting service?
[10:24]<Immental1200> We host it ourselves
[10:24]<+Tux2> Hmmm... same here
[10:24]<Immental1200> We do reseller, dedicated, vps, web, shoutcast, minecraft and soon more...
[10:24]<+Tux2> lol, funny thing: you can't open up a dispute on paypal until after 7 days have passed... she's going to be waiting a while
[10:24]<Immental1200> Do you do shared Minecraft? What control panel?
[10:25]<+Tux2> I do Multicraft
[10:25]<Immental1200> We had so many people last year who didn't read the terms and conditions and tried getting money from PayPal...
[10:25]<Immental1200> They're really simple too :/
[10:25]<Immental1200> Multicraft makes me want to impale my head on a stake and bleed to death slowly.
[10:26]<+Tux2> lol, she's not getting her money back from me. She's harrassed support staff, and I've been helping her with stuff that according to the TOS, is something I shouldn't even be doing!
[10:26]<Immental1200> It's one of the most unstable things I've ever dealt with...
[10:26]<+Tux2> lol, it's also the most popular
[10:26]<Immental1200> CraftSRV...
[10:26]<+Tux2> I'm in the process of building my own control panel
[10:26]<Immental1200> I have CraftSRV xD
[10:27]<Immental1200> I used to think McMyAdmin was the best for performance on a single server.... now that I've used CraftSRV I'm never going back to anything else
[10:28]<+Tux2> lol, McMyAdmin got really unstable
[10:28]<Immental1200> We've never had a single bit of downtime, nothing has broken that isn't still under development and I love the interface
[10:28]<+Tux2> I've had good luck with Multicraft
[10:29]<+Tux2> not a single second of downtime over here which wasn't caused by my datacenter
[10:29]<Immental1200> We had an 8GB quad core master node...
[10:29]<Immental1200> And 8 / 16GB 4 and six core nodes
[10:29]<Immental1200> ABout 25 in total.
[10:29]<Immental1200> The nodes would just drop off the master randomly...
[10:30]<Immental1200> If you SSH'd in they'd say 'i'm up and working, nothing wrong here'!
[10:30]<Immental1200> So we'd reboot them and they'd work for another 48 hours...
[10:31]<Immental1200> Our longest uptime was 230 hours...
[10:31]<Immental1200> The servers themselves were rock solid, and we swapped them with our webservers and they worked fine.. it was just multicraft
[10:31]<Immental1200> So we ditched it and went to TCAdmin
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[10:32]<+Tux2> That's quite odd
[10:32]<Immental1200> We tried loads of different versions...
[10:32]<Immental1200> Reinstalled the servers
[10:32]<Immental1200> Updated all services
[10:32]<Immental1200> Rolled back updates
[10:32]<Immental1200> Nothing worked
[10:33]<Immental1200> We spent... 6 hours with multicraft one time and all they did was fix it for a day
[10:33]<+Tux2> lol, I just looked at the lag times in the tickets, 17 hours for the longest time taken, and that's because I was asleep
[10:33]<+Tux2> Most of the time I answered within an hour
[10:33]<Immental1200> I have an average rating of 7/10 on my tickets...
[10:33]<Immental1200> I'm annoyed when people put 1 star because they dislike my answer
[10:34]<+Tux2> lol
[10:34]<+Tux2> If she files a dispute I'm going to win, everything is covered within my TOS, I have delivered everything she signed up for.
[10:35]<Immental1200> We've an average response of 3 hours... our policy is 24 for urgent, 48 for non urgent... works for me xD
[10:35]<+Tux2> ;) I have a 24 hours max time on my tickets
[10:35]<Immental1200> Longest we've had is 6 hours
[10:35]<Immental1200> And the US guy was ill
[10:35]<+Tux2> "Allow up to 24 hours for responses."
[10:36]<+Tux2> but I've never hit that time. It's just me, yes, but only because I don't trust anyone else enough
[10:36]<Immental1200> How many clients
[10:36]<+Tux2> Around 40
[10:36]<Immental1200> Ah
[10:36]<Immental1200> That makes sense...
[10:36]<+Tux2> yup
[10:36]<Immental1200> We have almost 700 on record for just the web side of things....
[10:36]<Immental1200> Probably 400 still active
[10:36]<+Tux2> nice!
[10:37]<Immental1200> We did have 250ish for minecraft but we had to deal with a co-owner going barmy
[10:37]<Immental1200> So minecraft had to be started from scratch
[10:37]<Immental1200> I can see your point about only trusting yourself
[10:38]<Immental1200> We're back down to me, two other owners and one support guy...
[10:38]<+Tux2> yeah
[10:38]<Immental1200> Surprisingly we get les than 20 tickets a day most days
[10:39]<+Tux2> lol, surprisingly I only get around 1 ticket per day
[10:39]<Immental1200> Then again, we're 90% reseller...
[10:39]<Immental1200> And they tend to know what they are doing
[10:39]<+Tux2> lol, right?
[10:40]<+Tux2> I still can't believe she's blaming the hosting... she removed all plugins: server worked fine. She added them back in: server didn't work. She isn't canceling the service because the server works, she's canceling because I'm not dropping everything for 5 hours to figure out her problem
[10:41]<+Tux2> If it was a problem with the server, I'd see the issue, but it's clearly not
[10:56]<Immental1200> How much is she paying
[10:57]<+Tux2> She paid $75 for the initial month, $65 for the server, $10 setup fee
[10:58]<+Tux2> I've been trying to get everything working for her on her server, but of course, she wants everything NOW and doesn't want to do anything herself.
[10:58]<Immental1200> How much does the server cost you
[10:58]<+Tux2> $40
[10:58]<Immental1200> Refund $30 and terminate her...
[10:59]<Immental1200> Well
[10:59]<Immental1200> Leave her with the server for a month
[10:59]<Immental1200> Then block her from getting another
[10:59]<Immental1200> it's what we do with troublesome clients
[11:00]<Immental1200> They take up too much time to be worth dealing with
[11:00]<+Tux2> I'm afraid she probably wouldn't be happy with a $30 refund
[11:01]<+Tux2> She's probably wanting a $60 refund
[11:01]<Immental1200> Ha
[11:01]<Immental1200> Nah, we'll break even but we never offer something that could make a loss
[11:02]<Immental1200> We've only had probably 5 clients like that
[11:02]<@jacky> where does she live? one of us might be close enough to go kick the sh*t out of her
[11:02]<@jacky> <g>
[11:02]<+Tux2> lol
[11:02]<+Tux2> "I am filing a dispute due to only having my service for 4 days and the server constantly crashed! I have tried resolving this with you through tickets, as your the only one who does tickets in a hosting company. You stated that the TOS say that with a dedicated server i don't get a refund, but you haven't given me all that i was supposed to get, I didn't get a stable server in no way. My previous host never had a crash and all i did was transfer
[11:02]<+Tux2> the files over! Also i Was having members complain about not being able to logging at all, which they previously could on previous host! I think because you couldn't offer me a stable server i should get a refund for the unused days. Its only right!"
[11:02]<Immental1200> Right
[11:02]<Immental1200> OK
[11:02]<Immental1200> So, when the plugin totalls .... what crashes?
[11:02]<Immental1200> Just java
[11:03]<Immental1200> Or the whole thing
[11:03]<+Tux2> It doesn't even crash
[11:03]<+Tux2> The server just times out for a second
[11:03]<@jacky> "as your the only one .." Let me write back to her. People that can't do simple English do not get refunds.
[11:03]<Immental1200> Then tell her to type in the command that shows server uptim
[11:03]<Immental1200> And prove that it's not gone down once
[11:03]<+Tux2> lol, I'm pulling server logs
[11:03]<Immental1200> Bam... she's screwed now
[11:04]<Immental1200> Wait
[11:04]<Immental1200> What is she using, bukkit or spigot? And which build.
[11:04]<Immental1200> If she's using bukkit or spigot with a 'development' or 'unstable' build. Point that out, and tell her to contact them...
[11:04]<+Tux2> [root@ks4002515 ~]# uptime
[11:04]<+Tux2> 13:04:39 up 3 days, 12:46, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.04, 0.05
[11:05]<+Tux2> It's a beta build
[11:05]<Immental1200> An OVH customer.
[11:05]<Immental1200> I have caught you out ;)
[11:05]<+Tux2> lol, yes, ovh
[11:05]<Immental1200> Which kimsufi?
[11:05]<+Tux2> I have several different suppliers
[11:05]<Immental1200> Ours haven't even arrived...
[11:05]<+Tux2> The cheapest ones
[11:05]<Immental1200> We ordered 3 mSP's
[11:05]<Immental1200> And 1 24G
[11:05]<Immental1200> We recieved 1 mSP ... and in the wrong datacentre
[11:06]<+Tux2> KS 1
[11:06]<Immental1200> Yeah. I'd not use that for minecraft ever
[11:06]<Immental1200> Poor thing can't handle world generation at times
[11:06]<+Tux2> lol, right? But people want it and are happy with it usually
[11:07]<Immental1200> Our mSPs were meant to be 2 in RBX and one in BHS...
[11:07]<Immental1200> One is going to replace 2/3 webservers
[11:07]<Immental1200> And the other two were minecraft
[11:07]<Immental1200> We got one in GRA
[11:07]<Immental1200> It's excellent...
[11:07]<Immental1200> And we ordered like 2 weeks ago
[11:08]<+Tux2> I advertise it as a budget server, so people know they aren't that powerful when they buy.
[11:08]<Immental1200> Yeah... we don't do dedicated for minecraft specifically.
[11:08]<Immental1200> We offer dedicated and charge to set it up for minecraft with a control panel
[11:08]<Immental1200> But we never say it's intended for that purpose
[11:08]<+Tux2> lol, sounds like me, I charge a setup fee
[11:09]<Immental1200> We charge no setup fees if you just order a dedi
[11:09]<+Tux2> I've already got several people on the budget servers running smoothly, first customer to really complain
[11:09]<Immental1200> What I love
[11:09]<Immental1200> Is I handed out free servers for a month
[11:09]<Immental1200> To test craftsrv and a new server
[11:09]<+Tux2> lol, lots of support tickets eh?
[11:09]<Immental1200> 90% stayed offline most of the time... and some didn't even log in
[11:10]<Immental1200> We handed out 110GB worth of servers
[11:10]<+Tux2> lol, that happens
[11:10]<Immental1200> In 2GB batches
[11:11]<+Tux2> wow
[11:16]<+Tux2> Well, I need to go, see you guys!
[11:18]<+Tux2> Also, for me, I have TOS for a reason, I've helped her out and responded quickly and professionally. I don't really like to bend rules, for her, it's either an all or nothing, and it would be paypal to refund it, not me.
[11:20]<+Tux2> If she was courteous and polite I would be more willing to bend, but she set it out as being angry and unmanageable, so I'm not bending.
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[12:23]<@BC_Programming> it's nice having monies again
[12:24]<@Mulreay> Indeed
[12:24]<Immental1200> I'm attempting to save up £500 / £550 ... but it's hard
[12:24]<@BC_Programming> now I need to try to connect my savings account to paypal
[12:24]<Immental1200> Hm. I don't think it's possible
[12:25]<@BC_Programming> Savings accounts have all the same information chequing accounts have
[12:25]<Immental1200> Well... here if it's not a current account
[12:25]<Immental1200> It doesn't work
[12:26]<@BC_Programming> define "current account"
[12:29]<@Mulreay> In the UK a 'current account' is a standard bank account.
[12:30]<@BC_Programming> thx
[12:30]<@BC_Programming> well I can use my savings pretty much the same as my chequing, I just can't get cheques I guess
[12:32]<@Mulreay> How do you mean cheques? In the UK that would mean paper cheques.. we don't really have them anymore
[12:32]<@BC_Programming> yeah that's pretty much it
[12:32]<@BC_Programming> best way to get bank information for stuff like direct deposit
[12:32]<@BC_Programming> also fewer fees when used with a Bank Card
[12:33]<@BC_Programming> I think by standards over there they would really both count as "standard" bank accounts
[12:34]<@Mulreay> We don't really have the 'paper cheque' anymore as in nobody writes a 'cheque' for goods or services.
[12:35]<@BC_Programming> hmm Canada's new Money is just weird
[12:38]<@Mulreay> New money?
[12:41]<@BC_Programming> yeah apparently we changed our bills some time ago
[12:41]<@BC_Programming> I should take a pic :P
[12:43]<@jacky> see you all later...
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[13:00]<@BC_Programming> oh wow
[13:01]<@BC_Programming> new minecraft snapshot
[13:01]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/misc/amplified.png
[13:11]<@Mulreay> Lost dog of the week http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2013/09/04/lost-dog-poster-of-the-week/
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[15:35]<@Mulreay> I'm destined to the hell fire as I'm not a Muslim..
[15:35]<@Mulreay> More fool me
[15:36]<@BC_Programming> but wait... the Muslim isn't a Mormon!
[15:38]<@Mulreay> I'm stupid as i don't want women to cover there hair
[15:45]<@Mulreay> If you get sharia law in the UK I will kill myself
[15:47]<@BC_Programming> What never made sense was how they move to the UK and then expect the UK to mould to the ways they want rather than vice versa
[16:08]<jamer> so some idiot broke my headphones....
[16:08]<@BC_Programming> sorry
[16:09]<jamer> nopt you XD
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[18:27]<Bruda> Next time VLC should issue a warning with volume changes lol
[18:32]<Bruda> 85% deaf, I really did figure that full volume was necessary :)
[18:55]<+camerongray> lol!
[19:09]<Bruda> It really is amazing how much more volume I can crank out of a Linux system vs Windows. Now if only the quality of gaming would catch up.
[19:13]<+camerongray> lol
[19:13]<+camerongray> My old install used to randomly turn the volume up when you change application
[19:13]<+camerongray> Looks like we've got a badass over here! "<db100547> kyle_engineer: i have other issues bigger and more important than here just now ."
[19:16]<@BC_Programming> lol
[19:16]<+camerongray> Like today, an important thing came up, I just said 'brb' :P
[19:17]<+camerongray> Then I went into a call (with someone from Adobe who said "You guys are awesome" causing a bit sniggering), guess what I said? Nothing!
[19:17]<+camerongray> And now he's 'helping' someone, must be very important stuff going on then!
[19:42]<Zuwer> Heh, I've attempted to make myself deaf a few times, I normally plug my headphones into my speakers so I can control the volume with them, which also means my PC's volume is at 60%. However, sometimes I plug my headphones into the front panel and forget about the volume. :x
[19:43]<+camerongray> Ahh :P
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[20:23]<Bruda> In my case I have cochlear deafness. Its degenerative so its been getting worse my whole life. But I've had that long to adapt.
[20:25]<Bruda> As for the computer I usually use pulseaudio's volume controls. In this case they were up to 150%, but VLC apparently still had a ways to go. Popped in Monster Ballads without the appropriate expectations.
[20:25]<Bruda> Never been more happier to turn the volume down :P
[20:32]<@BC_Programming> My hearing is OK, but my vision is terrible
[20:33]<@BC_Programming> nearsighted... I've never worn glasses but if I was to ever drive I'd probably need them
[20:33]<@BC_Programming> It's not genetic or anything I'm pretty sure it's just from staring at computer screens for the last decade and a half
[20:37]<Bruda> last I knew I was like -225 with astigmatism. I can read a book just fine but I'm doomed if I need to see something in the distance.
[20:37]<Bruda> with my glasses it feels 20/20.
[20:38]<Bruda> I've been staring at screens since 97.
[20:38]<Bruda> Lately I've been keeping them farther away from my face to avoid the crosseyed feeling.
[20:40]<@BC_Programming> That's me, I can't make stuff out at a distance, I think it's because the iris muscles are atrophied or something and cannot focus like that
[20:42]<Bruda> I offset that a little bit with the monitor farther away. Took some time to work it away from my face but eventually it became more comfortable at a distance and looking around wasn't as straining.
[20:43]<Bruda> Been coding for years. I swear I burned a lot of it into my corneas lol
[20:44]<Erika> mreow
[20:44]<Erika> dido^
[20:44]<Bruda> I see the resemblance :P
[20:45]<Erika> i once dreamed a solution to a coding problum i had
[20:45]<Erika> it worked
[20:45]<Bruda> Just once? Geez catch up :P
[20:46]<Bruda> I sleep better when I think about the code I"m working on.
[20:46]<Erika> i sleep better naked
[20:46]<Erika> whats your point?
[20:47]<@BC_Programming> I don't like having open WO's
[20:47]<@BC_Programming> I'm always like, "how can I best approach this... hmm.. the reports Templates could be dragged in through the Jar, or preprocessed by the main executable... etc"
[20:48]<@BC_Programming> then I end up writing it down in a text file to remember... then I just end up connecting to my work VPN at like 4AM and working on it lol
[20:48]<Bruda> Sorry I was lost in the naked thing. Then you followed asking about my point. I was simply unable to comment.
[20:48]<@BC_Programming> That wasn't me :/
[20:48]<Bruda> Don't confuse me BC_Programming :P
[20:49]<Bruda> Usually when I'm really to give up and head to bed I just have to think out algorithms.
[20:49]<Bruda> as in that's all I have left for the night.
[20:49]<Bruda> then by morning I'm usually setting on a good idea or two
[20:50]<Bruda> You'd think porn would be my 'counting sheep' but I guess I like the puzzles of coding better.
[20:53]<Bruda> Of course the hearing impairment makes it easy to get lost in my thoughts without distractions.
[20:55]<@BC_Programming> heh well at least there are benefits
[20:55]<Bruda> some :)
[20:57]<Bruda> Its kinda funny when people try to talk to me. Sometimes they get really animated trying to say something.
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[21:05]<jamer> Two hours on a phone....
[21:10]<Bruda> business or pleasure?
[21:11]<jamer> Personal
[21:11]<Bruda> I was just thinking there should be a 3rd option.
[21:12]<jamer> Me and the person needed to talk... She had me call
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